Comments on: I Don’t Like Jun Lozada But You Don’t Have To Like The Messenger To Get The Message http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/ Lawyer in the Philippines Sat, 13 Feb 2010 05:36:50 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Lozada’s whistle blowing « Macchiato - simply addicted http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-46892 Lozada’s whistle blowing « Macchiato - simply addicted Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:40:36 +0000 http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/#comment-46892 [...] Reading5 [...] [...] Reading5 [...]

]]> By: JM Marquiz http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-22072 JM Marquiz Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:51:17 +0000 http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/#comment-22072 In a confused broth of politics and personal aggrandizement in the Lozada revelations, there is no way to find the truth, if ever there has been. Truth has divorced Philippine politics decades ago. There will be no reconciliation in the immediate future. Lozada is just a bastard of this relationship in whose blood runs the paternal DNA of the "dysfunctional" and corrupt political system. Philippines is losing its status as a sovereign authority. It is now being run mafia style. Whoever has more firepower, controls the deal. That's what drives the De Venecias, the Lozadas, Lacsons and others who thought that their competitors cut them off from the deal. Public interest is never an issue here. Filipinos are not in their minds. As we battle in the streets for our waning idealism and tainted principles, the puppeteers are lurking in the vast estate of their property in Forbes Park and Dasma Village waiting for the administration to collapse and then they head off to the stage and make a victory speech. Then the powers are vested to them, and the cycle of lies and scandals continues. Perhaps, it is time that we fight it out as equals and not looking up at anyone as a lame hero. In a confused broth of politics and personal aggrandizement in the Lozada revelations, there is no way to find the truth, if ever there has been.

Truth has divorced Philippine politics decades ago. There will be no reconciliation in the immediate future. Lozada is just a bastard of this relationship in whose blood runs the paternal DNA of the “dysfunctional” and corrupt political system.

Philippines is losing its status as a sovereign authority. It is now being run mafia style. Whoever has more firepower, controls the deal. That’s what drives the De Venecias, the Lozadas, Lacsons and others who thought that their competitors cut them off from the deal. Public interest is never an issue here. Filipinos are not in their minds.

As we battle in the streets for our waning idealism and tainted principles, the puppeteers are lurking in the vast estate of their property in Forbes Park and Dasma Village waiting for the administration to collapse and then they head off to the stage and make a victory speech. Then the powers are vested to them, and the cycle of lies and scandals continues.

Perhaps, it is time that we fight it out as equals and not looking up at anyone as a lame hero.

]]> By: greg santillan http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-21911 greg santillan Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:20:12 +0000 http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/#comment-21911 since the issue of the zte investigation is about graft and corruption in gov’t, i am interested to know what other anomalies jun lozada is privy in, if he really is for the truth, he should take this opportunity to divulge all he knows concerning irregularities/grafts/corruptions in the years working for or dealing with the goverment. we need to hold ALL government officials past or present accountable for their actions, otherwise corruption would just go on. we are concentrating to hard on catching the one big fish that we are letting go of a lot of the small fries which in the end would grow up and become giant fishes. on another point, i’m so so dissapointed with corazon aquino, i was with edsa 1 and i used to consider her a hero, but now, she is but a worthless piece of shit, she did nothing during her presidency except play stage mother and play majong. and if arroyo is corrupt thru her husband, aquino was and is corrupt thru her brother. they’ve cheated the farmers of hacienda luisita and up to now, no justice has been given to all those massacred during the luisita demonstration since the issue of the zte investigation is about graft and corruption in gov’t, i am interested to know what other anomalies jun lozada is privy in, if he really is for the truth, he should take this opportunity to divulge all he knows concerning irregularities/grafts/corruptions in the years working for or dealing with the goverment. we need to hold ALL government officials past or present accountable for their actions, otherwise corruption would just go on. we are concentrating to hard on catching the one big fish that we are letting go of a lot of the small fries which in the end would grow up and become giant fishes.

on another point, i’m so so dissapointed with corazon aquino, i was with edsa 1 and i used to consider her a hero, but now, she is but a worthless piece of shit, she did nothing during her presidency except play stage mother and play majong. and if arroyo is corrupt thru her husband, aquino was and is corrupt thru her brother. they’ve cheated the farmers of hacienda luisita and up to now, no justice has been given to all those massacred during the luisita demonstration

]]> By: ArtM http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-21519 ArtM Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:40:28 +0000 http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/#comment-21519 I recently came across the website below regarding Mr. Jun Lozada and I thought I should share it with you: patriots4truth.blogspot.com It might help us discern the truth better about the man. I recently came across the website below regarding Mr. Jun Lozada and I thought I should share it with you:

patriots4truth.blogspot.com

It might help us discern the truth better about the man.

]]> By: Ria Jose http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-21353 Ria Jose Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:39:05 +0000 http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/#comment-21353 I thought I was the only one who didn't like Jun Lozada. I do believe most of what he says, but he seems to be enjoying himself too much. I thought I was the only one who didn’t like Jun Lozada. I do believe most of what he says, but he seems to be enjoying himself too much.

]]> By: Prudence http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-21200 Prudence Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:58:38 +0000 http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/#comment-21200 I agree with what you've said. In my part, I'm rather uncomfortable treating Lozada as a "hero". I do appreciate the efforts in exposing the knowledge he has about the dark dealings in the government. But I'll not easily forget that he, too, was part of those dealings. But that, in itself, does not contradict the fact that there had been corrupt dealings and that we should further dig for more skeletons in the closet. I agree with what you’ve said.

In my part, I’m rather uncomfortable treating Lozada as a “hero”. I do appreciate the efforts in exposing the knowledge he has about the dark dealings in the government. But I’ll not easily forget that he, too, was part of those dealings. But that, in itself, does not contradict the fact that there had been corrupt dealings and that we should further dig for more skeletons in the closet.

]]> By: Pedestrian Observer GB http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-21169 Pedestrian Observer GB Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:13:48 +0000 http://thewarriorlawyer.com/2008/02/26/i-don%e2%80%99t-like-jun-lozada-but-you-don%e2%80%99t-have-to-like-the-messenger-to-get-the-message/#comment-21169 Indeed it is the message not the messenger than counts and in so doing we are more closer to finding the elusive truth than go down the level of the trapos in the opposite direction. While the trapo wanted to kill the messenger by any means civil society tries to put him on the pedestal as in the case of jueteng bagman Chavit Singson. We seem to be fixated on personalities, perhaps a hangover from the personality based electoral exercise every 3 years that even scandals are seen in the same manner. I agree that protecting Lozada will also protect the truth and that's about it.... no more no less because they are themselves culpable who should be worrying about negotiating a lesser sentence instead of being hailed as a hero. On the other hand it is possible that endemic corruption has seep deep into the consciousness of the people and perverted most of them that finding a hero that we can truly emulate is futile as they are now extinct. Indeed it is the message not the messenger than counts and in so doing we are more closer to finding the elusive truth than go down the level of the trapos in the opposite direction. While the trapo wanted to kill the messenger by any means civil society tries to put him on the pedestal as in the case of jueteng bagman Chavit Singson.

We seem to be fixated on personalities, perhaps a hangover from the personality based electoral exercise every 3 years that even scandals are seen in the same manner.

I agree that protecting Lozada will also protect the truth and that’s about it…. no more no less because they are themselves culpable who should be worrying about negotiating a lesser sentence instead of being hailed as a hero.

On the other hand it is possible that endemic corruption has seep deep into the consciousness of the people and perverted most of them that finding a hero that we can truly emulate is futile as they are now extinct.

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