Comments on: The Jologs In Our Midst

By: The Warrior Lawyer

The Warrior Lawyer — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:03:52 +0000

@ The Equalizer, I don’t think a class war is on the horizon, in the Marxist sense, unless there is some effective effort to organize and articulate the grievances of the urban poor, including the “jologs”. They have a limited grasp of their capabilities as a revolutionary force.

@ Mike H., they may have had the money to buy a ticket but their rage was fueled by their exclusion from all the “better things in life” enjoyed by their more affluent contemporaries. The wall around the concert area symbolized this and became a convenient target to let out their frustrations.

@ Lace Llonora, agree. Having or lacking money does not determine “jologism”. It’s an attitude, a way of behaving and looking at the world.

@ Furball, agree. Being poor is not an excuse for antisocial behavior. But knowing the economic stratification of society just might give us some insights on why these things happen.

@ Marius Carlos, Jr. , I fear that violence is not just a passing thing and is becoming embedded in our culture.

By: OMGWTFIDONTWANTTODIE 2

OMGWTFIDONTWANTTODIE 2 — Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:12:55 +0000

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By: the warrior lawyer

the warrior lawyer — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:07:51 +0000

@ MLQ3, the mini-uprising of the urban poor in May 2001 was indeed a flexing of their political muscle in protest over the perceived persecution of their champion, Erap. But whether they have a conscious awareness of their emerging clout is still unclear.

Blooger Karlo Mongaya, commenting here under Riposte (Mis) readings, suggests that vigorous organization by progressives might rekindle the sense of solidarity and purpose which the middle class and opposition had with this sector during past struggles.

@ Caffeine Sparks, I agree that some sort of “gating” is due in order to keep criminal elements out. As I commented in Marck’s blog, a school has the right to take reasonable measures to protect students, faculty and staff in order to provide and sustain a safe learning environment. This is according to an SC decision which incidentally involved U.P.

@ Angela, I hope and pray that the info you got on the death of the U.P. policeman is untrue. I haven’t seen any updates in the traditional media on how he’s doing. On a personal level, it’s a great tragedy for his family and friends. I have known more than a few U.P. cops during my day and, by and large, they are as honest and hard-working as any of U.P.’s non -teaching staff. On an institutional level, this incident (taken together with others in the past) might prompt the admin to give up some of the university’s autonomy and allow the regular PNP a bigger role in maintaining order on campus. With the attendant problems such a move would bring.

By: Furball

Furball — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:00:30 +0000

I share Lace Llanora’s idea of what I consider as “jologs”. As much as Jologs has become a colloquial term to refer to, the uh, “marginalized” and “economically challenged”, I prefer to use the term “jologs” to refer to a person who lacks the ability to control himself/herself and act with at least a grain of decency. For me, being poor is not an excuse to give in to the baser instincts. Similarly, being economically blessed does not automatically make you a better person… it just means you can afford more stuff.

you know what they say…not all that glitters is gold.

By: Marius Carlos Jr.

Marius Carlos Jr. — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:57:28 +0000

Jumping Jologs, EMO kids, these brands evade the real issue. The culture of violence of these young individuals is a clear sign of how little we had cared and how little we know of fellow Filipinos. Violence is a passing thing– but we choose to emphasize this particular passage of violence because of further perversions of the formula– kids did it, not adults. In a way, we are simply spectators enjoying the show, as always.

By: Lace Llanora

Lace Llanora — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:47:14 +0000

This article is insightful indeed. Personally though, I do not associate being poor as jologs but rather a person’s conduct and character.

I have seen people with money act like “jologs” and I have seen people from depressed community act with proper decorum.

Are the Jumping Jologs aka “orcs” the representation of the poor or is it a mere fad for the youth?

By: Mike H.

Mike H. — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:49:38 +0000

So shouldn’t a lawyer first find the facts? Were they beggars, those who crashed the walls, or did many of they have enough money to buy tickets?

By: Riposte « (Mis)readings

Riposte « (Mis)readings — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:16:22 +0000

[...] give those very same “jumping jologs” permission to reply in kind (were they not, as The Warrior Lawyer points out, thinking in the following manner in way one or the other, albeit spontaneously, as they [...]

By: BrianB

BrianB — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:52:54 +0000

I want to blame the educated whose first impulse is snobbery instead of legality, or morality or ethics.

By: The EQualizer

The EQualizer — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:19:48 +0000

The last thing we need in this country is a
a destructive class war between rich and poor!